{"id":11733,"date":"2026-07-11T20:04:35","date_gmt":"2026-07-11T20:04:35","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.fintechpulse8.com\/?p=11733"},"modified":"2026-07-11T20:04:35","modified_gmt":"2026-07-11T20:04:35","slug":"openai-engineers-lol-moment-set-stage-for-legal-fight-with-apple","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.fintechpulse8.com\/?p=11733","title":{"rendered":"OpenAI engineer\u2019s \u2018LOL\u2019 moment set stage for legal fight with Apple"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/fortune.com\/img-assets\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/GettyImages-2156402117-e1783782201684.jpg?w=2048\" \/><\/p>\n<p>When iPhone engineer Chang Liu quit for a job at OpenAI\u2019s nascent hardware division, Apple Inc. says he left with more than just years of experience.<\/p>\n<div>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">According to a\u00a0lawsuit filed Friday, Liu departed with three things: a company-issued MacBook he never returned, a close relationship with an Apple employee who continued sharing internal information, and, most significantly, knowledge of a software bug that gave him ongoing access to internal file servers.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cLOL, I found out I can access the [network storage], so funny,\u201d Liu wrote to his former Apple colleague, Alyssa Peng. He then, Apple alleges, used that access to download presentations, hardware designs, manufacturing details and testing procedures \u2014 all while already working at OpenAI.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">When Liu discovered the bug, Peng stepped in to help, according to the suit. She replied, \u201cI\u2019m ready,\u201d and eventually helped obtain more information through her own laptop. A few months later, in April, Peng herself left for OpenAI\u2019s growing hardware division.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">She joined more than 400 other former Apple employees drawn by the opportunity to work on next-generation devices designed to replace the two-decade-old iPhone \u2014 with salaries and stock options that trumped Apple\u2019s less dazzling pay packages.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The episode is one of many that Apple says illustrate a \u201csystematic effort to acquire, retain and use\u201d its confidential information to help OpenAI replicate its decades of work building the world\u2019s most successful consumer electronics business.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The 40-page lawsuit alleges that OpenAI encouraged prospective employees still at Apple to study confidential materials before interviews and brazenly bring hardware components and prototypes to so-called show-and-tell sessions at OpenAI\u2019s offices.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In response to the lawsuit, OpenAI said it has \u201cno interest in other companies\u2019 trade secrets.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cWe remain focused on building innovative technology that empowers people everywhere,\u201d a spokesperson for the San Francisco-based company said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The lawsuit was filed after months of simmering tension between Apple and OpenAI \u2014 partners that have increasingly become rivals. Both companies are gunning for the nascent AI device market, a category that\u2019s poised to reinvent the way consumers use technology.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">At the center of the rift is Tang Tan, a former Apple executive who had overseen the design of the iPhone, smartwatch and several other products. He told his bosses in late 2023 that he was\u00a0leaving for a new gig\u00a0\u2014 an opportunity that eventually became the chief hardware officer job at OpenAI.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">At the time, there were few signs that his departure would end in a courtroom battle. In a rare move, Apple allowed him to stay on through February 2024, letting him manage a transition that required a revamp of the hardware division.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Behind the scenes, however, Tan had\u00a0already begun working\u00a0with former Apple design head Jony Ive and OpenAI Chief Executive Officer Sam Altman on an ambitious new hardware venture. Their aim was to create a new category of AI devices that could one day challenge the iPhone itself.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Tan and Ive helped found io Products, a startup that OpenAI acquired last year for $6.5 billion. They teamed up on the venture with Evans Hankey, Ive\u2019s successor as Apple\u2019s industrial design chief, and Scott Cannon, a former manufacturing manager who left the tech giant in 2010.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Apple was quickly alarmed by OpenAI\u2019s recruiting drive, which included poaching senior hardware and design leaders and ravaging several teams across its engineering organizations.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The practice continued as recently as June, when OpenAI lured away Apple\u2019s smart glasses chief. That executive, Paul Meade, was quickly shown the door at Apple and not given the opportunity to stay on for a transition period, according to people with knowledge of the matter.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">To Apple, the talent search looked like an attempt to recreate the iPhone maker\u2019s product-development machine inside OpenAI. \u201cOpenAI\u2019s nascent hardware business now rests on the shakiest of foundations, rotten to its core by its illegal reliance on misappropriated trade secrets,\u201d Apple said Friday.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Tan was famous for taking risks at Apple and \u201cflying very close to the sun\u201d during his 25-year career, according to someone who worked with him. \u201cTang is well known for moving fast, playing fast and loose and breaking things,\u201d said the person, who asked not to be identified while discussing former colleagues.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">He made his name leading the design of early Mac laptops and iPods before taking charge of the product design function for the original iPhone. Tan oversaw the entire iPhone design team by 2011 and then led the Apple Watch design work. By the time he left, he was one of Apple\u2019s top executives.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">OpenAI, meanwhile, had committed billions of dollars to its hardware effort and was racing toward an initial public offering. Nevertheless, the startup had little to show beyond concepts and early prototypes when io was acquired, according to people with knowledge of the matter. At the time, the company was still scrambling to settle on a compelling product strategy, they said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">These days, OpenAI is working on an AI-powered smartphone replacement, though its first product may be something simpler, the people said. The company has explored concepts ranging from earbuds and smart glasses to AI-enhanced speakers. Apple, for its part, is developing a new lineup of home devices, camera-equipped AirPods, glasses and\u00a0other wearables.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Apple said that it tried to resolve the dispute before filing the suit, including by contacting the AI company in February. It said it told OpenAI of its concern that confidential Apple information had made its way there and asked the company to both investigate the issue and stop it from happening. The startup never responded, Apple alleges.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The key OpenAI employees named in the lawsuit, including Tan, didn\u2019t respond to requests for comment.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The lawsuit also underscores Tan\u2019s strained relationship with John Ternus, his former boss and Apple\u2019s incoming chief executive officer. Most of OpenAI\u2019s Apple recruits came from Ternus\u2019 hardware engineering division, and some designers had backed Tan over Ternus for the top hardware job in 2021.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Tan, who Apple portrays as orchestrating the effort to obtain confidential information, is alleged to have used interviews with prospective employees as information-gathering sessions about upcoming Apple products.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In one instance, Apple says an employee acquired information about a project just hours before meeting with Tan for a job interview. \u201cThen, in the interview, Mr. Tan solicited more information about that same Apple project. This has become an established pattern,\u201d according to the lawsuit.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Once employees sign on to work at OpenAI, they are encouraged to send information before resigning from their Apple devices to their personal email accounts to use later at the AI startup, the iPhone maker alleges. OpenAI, the complaint says, distributes \u201ca checklist that Tang put together\u201d that helps new employees evade detection from Apple\u2019s security teams.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Apple also alleges that Tan went as far as asking prospective hires to bring prototypes to job interviews. This included batteries, logic boards and other components, the complaint says.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">At least one Apple worker who applied to OpenAI was concerned about the practice, saying he was \u201csurprised people have brought\u201d unreleased hardware to job interviews. He said he \u201cdidn\u2019t know we could take those from the office.\u201d In many cases, they couldn\u2019t.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>#OpenAI #engineers #LOL #moment #set #stage #legal #fight #Apple<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>When iPhone engineer Chang Liu quit for a job at OpenAI\u2019s nascent hardware division, Apple Inc. says he left with more than just years of experience. 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